Chapter twelve                                         
                        
                                        Of

THE REVELATION OF SAINT JOHN, THE
DIVINE    
                                   

                                           Anno Domini 70

                                 Commentary by Rev. Hoover


Numbered text in
Purple Typeface is copied from the NEW STANDARD REFERENCE BIBLE. All else is
commentary by the Author.

(1)  
And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon
under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:

(1a) "...a woman clothed with the sun' and the moon under her feet,..."

She is Columbia, defined by Noah Webster as Spiritual America. Her material person is
Djisasee, a Huron Indian maiden born around 1405.        

(1b) "...
Clothed with the sun..."

This indicates
she is holy and that she bears enlightenment, spiritual, intellectual or both. Look
at any "
Walking Liberty" coin for her engraved likeness.

(1c) "
and the moon under her feet,..."

What else but a
deliberate key to her identity that did not activate until 1969 when American
Citizens
planted the Stars and Stripes on the surface of the moon and lay that orb at the feet of
Columbia
? Please note that until this happened, there was no possibility of identifying the
Woman, or interpreting this chapter.

Subsequent to 1968, it is probable that only people accustomed to dealing with non-linear time
would make the
connection. That means a Shaman Lodge of the light side of Orenda, for the
Dragon's Masters of The New World Order already knew this and were not about to make it
public. Wording indicates the passage in the Bible was deliberately written, or revealed in such a
manner that the
sense of it would be hidden from clerics, whose minds are captive. Dogma is
anathema to The Great Spirit. True faith must be dynamic.

(1d) "
and upon her head a crown of twelve stars."

One tries in vain to call these stars the Colonies. They in fact represent the original twelve tribes
of Israel
. Somehow, unlikely as it may seem, spiritual guidance has caused a representative
number
of the descendants of these tribes to immigrate at some point in or before history to the
land of the
Great Turtle where they are united as Native Americans.

They may be
Indian, Englander, Germanic or what have you. It is not by accident that this is
contained in
chapter 12, which itself is a further clue. By extrapolation, it also follows that Christ's
New Jerusalem, is the United States. Jerusalem went nowhere.

According to the First Book of Samuel, God caused the twelve tribes of Israel to be broken up
for demanding a
King to rule over them instead of Himself. What could be more fitting than they be
reunited in Christ's Republic, under His Constitution and the Territorial Imperative of
Columbia, that taken together, banishes the rule of men forever?

Not
really forever, "for after a time the Dragon must be released" from the "Lake of Fire". That is
another
paraphrase in disguise. We are dealing here with Ages beyond our comprehension.

(2)    
And she, being with child, cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.

(2a) The dark ages were at their depths, Tomas de Torquemada was conceived in Europe and
the
Great Temple of the Dragon was raised in Peking, 1420 was a year of spiritual crises and
heaven's response was Columbia's travail.

(2b)
Her Son's birthing alerted the dragon who moved to intensify the inquisition. The frantic
persecution
of heretics is a deliberate search for the Messiah or any of His disciples.

By the
fact that women are also burned, we know that Christ's message was anticipated by the
Church, which knew it's true master was Lucifer. Columbia's pain was intensified by the fact that
there was
no place in the known world where She could safely be delivered.

Nostradamus, beyond doubt a professed convert from Judaism to Christianity, known to be a
Cabalistic scholar and known to be searching the future for Christ, is not harmed by the Inquisition,
though
he is frequently questioned and lives in fear of them. Can you doubt they hoped he'd lead
the
Church to Christ? Do you believe they intended to fall on their knees and turn their whole
power structure ove
r to Him? Like the Sanhedrin perhaps?

Why could Nostradamus not locate Christ?  The answer is built into the energy structure of the
Universe.  The technique he used allows the search of anywhere, anywhen known to the
searcher
.  Doubtless Nostradamus and Christ shared a when, but the where was beyond
European imagination, and would have proven impossible to anchor the Animal Spirit in.

Why would not Christ simply go to the Church and announce He's taking over? Why didn't He use
that approach the first time as the
King of the Jews? You say that Rome would have been more
likely
to accommodate him than the Sanhedrin!  Yeah, I think you're right!  

Actually
Christ did exactly that.  He adhered rigidly to the prophesies of His coming.  Diligently
fulfilling
each condition down to entering Jerusalem on a Virgin Ass.  Who says God has no sense of
humor
?

Part of Christ/God's purpose was to demonstrate the inherent Evil of organized religion and share
mankind's suffering under Satan's Great Lie.

Now the shoe is on the other foot. Rome appears to be quite willing to follow the example of the
Sanhedrin and save the Church from Christ the "Prince of Heretics" in the most painful way
possible.

Why would He do other than to appear in the wilderness to pave the way for His eventual
descent?
Civilization is risky! If followed, the Constitution would make the USA a civilization safe
for
Heretics, would it not?

(3)   And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold, a great red dragon, having
seven heads, and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.

(3a)  "And there appeared another wonder in heaven: and behold, a great red dragon,..."

Red is the ancient color of evil. Red and black in combination symbolizes far greater evil. The
Red Dragon
is both Satan/The Serpent, and the body politic spiritual construct of the known
world
in the fifteenth century. It is theological and secular, but primarily it is a cabal bent on
world domination
.

Again, we are dealing with non-linear time. The seven heads are the Christian churches as they
were to be, while the seven crowns represent secular governments allied with the churches. As to
the
ten horns, they are a part of the dragon more intimate than a crown, which is merely apparel.

According to
other scripture, horns, teeth and claws represent Armies under separate but
allied
secular control. Biblical reference is always historical and I have yet to identify each one.
Since
I am aware such things require years of debate, and I’m unlikely to survive this posting by
much
, I'll leave them to the specialists.

(4)   And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven and did cast them to the earth.

(4a) These stars are the new human souls and others who owe some form of allegiance to
the
Dragon, though most are dupes, and are newly assembled as human souls. The passage does
seem to indicate the Dragon had influence over the allotment of lifetimes and could stack the
population deck
in his favor. Perhaps some of the victims of the inquisition really were witches.

The fact that the Inquisition sought witches to burn does not mean they were in opposite camps. It
means
only that burning witches was an acceptable cover at the time. Even the Devil wants
martyrs, the difference is he creates his own. The Inquisition’s actual search was for Christ, or
manifestations of
His true doctrine, which is heresy to Saul's Church.

(5)    
And she brought forth a man-child; who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: And her
child was caught up unto God and to his throne.

(5a) "And she brought forth a man-child;..."

Where was the Dragon? In Europe, of course. Columbia gave birth in the wilderness of the "New
World"
. Probably in 1420. Henry Hudson and the Dutch did not claim New Amsterdam (New York)
until
1609. This was long after Hiawatha established the Iroquois Confederacy.

(5b) "
...who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron:..."

What
is the single most powerful nation in the world? Was it not established, and ruled, at least in
theory
, by our Declaration of Independence and the Constitution?

(5c) "...And her child was caught up unto God and to his throne.."

He certainly was, but not until His work on Earth was complete. As Degandaweda, Christ first
devised a system of writing on wampum belts.
Then He wrote the Iroquois Constitution from which
our
own was copied, and ineptly adapted. Could a mere mortal have been capable of two such
fantastic cerebral feats?

Think on it. Two almost diametrically opposed cultures discovered it worked equally well for
them. The second (
US)had to patch up their boo boos, such as failing to allow women's branch of
government
and to outlaw slavery, though the adoption mechanism was copied selectively.
(Naturalization)

(Many years after the first draft of this was written "THE HISTORY CHANNEL" ran a special documentary
entitled ("500 NATIONS"). They made the first reference I’ve ever seen to the fact that Sachems of the
Iroquois Nation and the original wampum belt of Degandaweda were stashed upstairs while our founding
fathers crafted our Declaration of Independence.)

To
devise a written language among a people who had no means even to record it, beyond
bead art.
Then to inscribe a legal document that would free mankind from themselves for the
first time in recorded human history.

How could we believe Him a mere mortal? Ah, to remove all doubt, Revelations says He was
drawn up "
to the throne of God." Only one of three entities within our ken and born of Woman
occupies that
throne. Did you note the emphasis on to? It's also in my bible.

(6)    
And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she has a place prepared of God, that they
should feed her there a thousand two hundred and three score days.

(6a) "And the woman fled into the wilderness,..."

Columbia as Djisasee did flee, from the Huron who were outraged by an unmarried woman giving
birth.
According to legend, not even Djisasee’s mother would believe her until she tried to drown the
baby and was struck down from heaven.

(6b) ".
..where she has a place prepared of God,..."

Djisasee fled to the Onandaga who's Turtle Clan adopted her and her son. It was there that
Degandaweda met and recruited Hiawatha after His labors on the Constitution. The Turtle
represents North America and thus Columbia.

(6c) "
...that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and three score days".

They were the Onandaga who adopted Djisasee, her mother and her Son. They were fed and
provided meat and a garden plot was cleared for
them by the men of the Turtle Clan. I do not yet
know why the emphasis on,
and. The day count works out to slightly less than three and a half years.

The
departure of Degandaweda corresponded very closely to the death of Tomas de
Torquemada
, Grand Inquisitor of Spain in 1489. That's three, to three and a half years before
Columbus sailed into the Caribbean and the persecution of Columbia and her seed began. Yes, I
said departure. He paddled away in a canoe made of "white stone." ????  (Some legends credit
magic propulsion.)

(One cannot help but wonder at the timing, both God's and Satan's representatives born and departed
at about the same time.  Torquemada's birth and death are a matter of record.  Would it not be delicious
irony if it worked out to the respective days, perhaps to the hour?)

All is foretold in Chapter 12. The Grand Inquisitor of Spain was dead, but his organization
and principles
lived on.

Add: Separate the one thousand two hundred and three score days, and point out the fact that it was
given so precisely so we could establish the actual day of Degandaweda's birth. I will not give it at this
time as am not satisfied with the exact date Columbus set foot in the "New World" and do not wish to
contribute to another travesty like Saturnalia/Christmas. The Island landing was where the persecution of
"the woman's seed" began, so is the relevant date. It should be handled by accredited scholars as no
college alumni would be satisfied with a truck driver's solution. What if I got it right? Horrors! Academia
would never rest until they found a flaw. Worse! I'm also a "Biker".

(7)  
And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon and the
dragon fought and his angels,

(7a) Obviously there is turmoil in the Spirit World. On Earth the conflict began much earlier.
Believing
he had the entire population of the so-called "civilized world" in an iron grip, the dragon
began the
persecution of innocent European victims in the name of Christ, and in anticipation of His
coming
into a trap.

Lucifer had paid attention to Christ's words, and knew He would be obscure, "as a thief in the
night
". Also that He would not be known as Christ, but incognito, under a "new name". He is also
aware that the
Christian Religion is going to go through some radical changes, for one thing
Christ is "taking a Bride" and all of Heaven is singing "a new song". That song is our sacred
Constitution.

Knowing our savior would respond by returning to Earth, the Dragon planned to identify and
destroy Him before He could amass a following. This would have been a great victory that should
have prolonged
his rule indefinitely. He exhibited enough foreknowledge to choose Spain, which was to
become the greatest
exploiter and murderer of the wilderness.

The
apparent injustice to all those "innocent victims" by Christ's time consuming reaction was not
callous as it appears.
We know from history that many so called martyrs that were immolated by the
Inquisition were outspoken followers of the dragon in his role as Satan/Lucifer, who'd rejected his
own version of
Christianity.

Many more were true martyrs, paying debts to The Infinite, amassed in previous lives.  Besides,
"knowledge" was our own choice:  Ask Eve!

Continued sentience of these folks on the other side matched the wisdom of the design they
created or
allowed another to create for them. Don't forget all those stars swept from Heaven by
the
dragon's tail. Although most Europeans were penalized to a degree, it is certain that the majority
of victims came from Satan's own ranks.

Only on rare occasions does the principle of evil have real power over those who do not grant it
to him
. Most martyrs have actively sought their fate, while with others the animal self or
conscience brought it on through the agency of the Parent Self or Guardian Angel. "As it is
on Earth, so it is in Heaven."
The Bible frequently calls the Spirit World, Heaven. Christ told
Peter that we design it for ourselves.

I am not a thorough enough researcher to state that interchangeability is always the case, but in
this instance it certainly is. The reaction against the church's persecution and the positive
image
of Hiawatha's Confederacy ushered in the Renaissance, which corresponds to the
Archangel Michael's counterattack.

Hiawatha then, would have been the earthly counterpart of the Archangel Michael who may well be
a
male aspect of Columbia. Certainly she is the "Bride of Christ". Her proportions in the Bible
match the
lower 48.

(8)  
 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.

(8a)   'Nuff said? You do understand that this means, "The CONSTITUTIONALIST" PAC or
something very like it
can prevail?

(9)    
And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which
decieveth the whole world: He was cast out into the world and his angels were cast out with him.

(9a) "...which decieveth the whole world:..."

I'm tempted to underline, whole world. We're not talking rocks and rivers here folks, this is people
and all
their institutions and governments. In fact we are also talking Christianity as it lives today.

I am not saying all Christians are going to hell for their beliefs. They are in fact the best and most
moral among us.
This makes them the most effective instrument in Satan's kit. Such Christians
as are
unable to see, will simply die and sit at the right hand of Jesus until boredom drives them
back, or perhaps it’s the
crowding.

Each
Christian has the option to search their own soul and accept or reject what is said here
without penalty. This does not have to be an either-or decision, but it must be informed. This does
not mean blindly accepting the word of "experts" or preachers and priests.

The
decision must be formed from studying the Bible without the guidance of another person,
and
that includes me. They may accept any part of these words, or none of them. They will know the
truth for
their particular age when they see it. Woe, to the soul who does not act upon their own
true belief
. That has always been the law.

(9b) "He was cast out into the world, and his angels were cast out with him."

This is
actually a great boon to mankind, for the dragon can no longer shape events on Earth from
the
high level of the Spirit World, nor can he influence the birth of human souls. He must now
operate from the
shadow world or directly on Earth and his overall power is greatly reduced. Best
yet
, we mortals can oppose him.

This does not mean he is unable to concentrate enormous influence over localized events or
persons
, and yes he can kill when we allow it. Worse, he now has human agents in the most
powerful governments and their clandestine organizations, in the world, as well as our
fraternal groups, charities and churches.

Agencies such as the FBI, BATFE IRS and the CIA have been infiltrated from their inception. (In fact
they
also infiltrate each other. I know of at least one instance where a FBI agent provocateur
named
Christensen was a CIA infiltrator who used a drug named "Hypnotique" [A derivative of
ayhuasca courtesy
East German Intelligence circa 1950.] to entrap a patriotic idiot. The FBI
belatedly discovered and sacked him so he came in from the cold as a recruiter for United Fruit [an
infamous
CIA front]) in Utah.

Yes! He was a professed Mormon so Dannites, as well as the KGB may well have infiltrated all
three organizations
. That still beats open tyrannies such as the old Russia and Red China where
such
agents of the dragon actually created the governments and staffed their oppressive
organs.

(10)    And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven' Now is come salvation, and strength, and the
kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: For the accuser of our brethren is cast down
which accused them before our God day and night.

(10a) "...Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God and the power of His
Christ:
.."

Yup! That's what we been talking about all along. Our Republic is established. As to the rest of the
passage,
we need to clean up our thinking and protect the real heroes like "Tailgunner Joe
McCarthy"
from the defamation of evil. Personally I suspect the ACLU.

(11)   And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and
they loved not their lives unto the death.

(11a) Obviously these are good Christians, probably beginning with Martin Luther's reform
movement, which had a dampening effect on the excesses of the
Catholic Church. However it is a
work in progress also, for our protectors do face a constant barrage of venom to this day.  We'll
win, the
time is now!

(11b) "and they loved not their lives unto the death."

Hoka Hey! We have lots of lives, so it's always a good day to lose one in having a go at the
Dragon
. Do you see how that has been twisted? Do you reject your God given life?

(12)   
Therefore rejoice ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabitors of the earth,
and of the sea! For the Devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth he
has but a short time.

(12a) "Therefore rejoice ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them..."

Sure you noticed the plural on Heavens. How many? How many has man conceived? To each,
his own.
These heavens are not the same as dimensions or the shadow world, though they are a
part of the
Spirit World.

In our imagery the closest I can come is the Holo Deck of the "Starship Enterprise". Their reality is of
a
different sort and not stable. Please note that this is the 12th. Verse of the 12th. Chapter
and thus bears a
very important message. Is not Paradise here on Mother Earth?

(13)   And when the dragon saw he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman who
brought forth the man-child.

(13a)   Still does, at first it was just the Indians, but as we became a single body politic he included
the rest of
you. Not that he doesn't still punish the Indian the hardest, he just includes all you other
Native Americans
now. We are all the spiritual sons and daughters, the seed of Columbia. Now
you
know where all those "Hate America" types are coming from.

(14)  
 And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the
wilderness, into her place where she is nourished for a time and times and half a time, from the
face of the serpent.

(14a)  Skajian of course would be the "great eagle." Degandaweda and Hiawatha are the "two
wings"
. The rest of it refers to the roughly seventy years before Columbus  landed and the floods of
the
servants of the dragon were vomited forth.

(15)  
 And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood, after the woman, that she might be
carried away of the flood.

(15a) This one is easy. It refers to the flood of immigration across the waters and mountains. Orenda
is frequently,
cryptically referred to as water. A great flow of this life force would indicate a massive
migration
.

As a
for-instance allow me to refer you to Chapter 17, verse 15 of Revelations "And He saith unto
me. The waters which thou sawest, where the
whore siteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and
nations, and tongues." The emphasis was by yours truly, who believes you will understand and
benefit from much of the
17th chapter now... For instance, do you recognize that the whore,
Babylon the Great is all organized religion?

(16)   And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth and swallowed up the
flood, which the dragon cast out of his mouth.

(16a)  Did She ever, fortunately the land was vast enough to accomplish this. Had the poor Indian no
place to retreat to,
you would not be reading this. Time and the Territorial Imperative, who we now
know is the
will of Columbia converted the flood into more of Columbia's seed.

(Except for Genesis 4:11, to the best of my poor knowledge, this is the only other place in the Bible
where the Earth is referred to as female, living and sentient. To be sure we notice, it is repeated in the
same verse. We tried telling the white man the Earth is alive ever since he got here. As he becomes
more native, he hears truth.)

(17)   
And the Dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her
seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

(17a) "And the Dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her
seed
,..."

Troops to the frontiers! Imagine his frustration when the New Native Americans back in the
colonies adopted his victim's Constitution of Degandaweda and forged a Republic around it.
That is when the long process of subverting the instrument of God's Kingdom on Earth began
with The
Federalist Papers, that among other crimes suggested the Supreme Court "interpret"
our Constitution.

(17b) "which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ."

The Commandments of God revolve around a personal relationship with The Infinite. Medicine!
Freedom to choose!
What glory to God, if your government chooses for you? Where is Spiritual
growth?
The True Testimony of Jesus Christ is recorded on Wampum belts in the Custody of
The
Iroquois Nation of Canada, permanent refugees from the "Land of the free, and home of the
Brave".

Still harbor a few doubts?  What is the
single longest lived tyranny the world has ever known?  
Should
you require a hint their Dictator is called a Pope and claims infallible authority directly from
God
.  All Christian Churches subscribe to at least some of their authoritarian doctrine.

Contrast the above fact with the following.

Where the Spirit of The Lord is present, there is freedom.

                                                        -----2 Corinthians 3.17b  

Sorry,
I had to add the emphasis.


     END OF CHAPTER 12 OF THE BOOK OF REVELATIONS.



Well
folks, try as I might, there was a lot of points that were skipped over.  Page four of this site
addresses a few of these that came to mind.  It is actually quite difficult for an
old man whose life has
been spent on a more physical plane, to adopt letters and organize
his thinking.  If you do not hate me
yet,  
forge on!


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